City mulls ways to make outsiders pay

Published Thursday June 18th, 2009
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SAINT JOHN - The city could charge people from outlying areas for using municipal services with a range of potential taxes, private consultants say.

Residents from the suburbs who work in the city, or regularly travel here, could pay new sales, fuel and payroll taxes that would be levied by city hall, Harry Kitchen and Enid Slack suggest in a report.

Several council members have raised concerns that residents from the valley, Grand-Bay Westfield and farther flung areas regularly use Saint John's services, but don't pay for them.

Just last fall, council narrowly quashed a motion that would have asked the city solicitor to consider the legality of charging suburban residents $8 per day to drive on the city's roads, drink its water and use its bathrooms.

Kitchen and Slack, university researchers from Ontario with backgrounds in municipal finances, suggest there are alternative sources of revenue - but they would require changes in provincial legislation.

"It's been our impression from what we've done elsewhere that there is legally some merit in suggesting some alternative revenue sources for municipalities, primarily for cities in large urban areas, that currently aren't used very often in Canada," Kitchen told council this week.

"It gives this council an option to say we have access to more than one tax; we can decide, do we want to raise it here, do we want to raise it there?" said Kitchen, a professor at Trent University who specializes in local government revenues and expenditures.

Council voted this week to form a committee that will further consider new ways of generating revenue.

Councillor Donnie Snook said Wednesday the city must address what he said was an inequity in which residents from outlying communities benefit from services they don't pay for.

But Snook said the city must also be careful not to discourage non-residents from spending time here.

"We have to figure out a way to make those that are from outlying areas and benefiting from our services to contribute more," Snook said.

"We have got to sensibly strike a balance to make sure our approach is fair as possible and that it's an approach that is going to be beneficial and advantageous for us."

Slack and Kitchen estimate the city could reap an additional $10 million a year by collecting a one per cent sales tax. According to their plan, the province would administer the tax and add one percentage point to the provincial share of the harmonized sales tax levied in the city.

The consultants said the city could earn about $1.7 million annually by collecting a fuel tax of one cent per litre. They said many American cities levy fuel taxes, but Canadian cities don't.

Slack and Kitchen said in their report some provinces share fuel tax revenue with municipalities using different methods.

The British Columbia government, for example, provides the Greater Vancouver Transit Authority with revenues equal to 12 cents per litre in fuel tax collected in Metro Vancouver. The authority uses the revenues to cover the capital and operating costs of public transit and major roads in Metro Vancouver.

Slack and Kitchen also suggested the city could collect taxes from suburban residents by reaping local income tax revenues.

The consultants argued a local income tax would be difficult to implement and expensive to administer.

But they said the city could collect a percentage of the provincial share of income tax levied within the municipality. Should the province increase income tax in the city by one per cent, the city would receive $1.1 million a year and the provincial tax rate would increase by less than one tenth of one per cent, Kitchen said.

According to the report, Manitoba shares revenues from 4.15 per cent of provincial income taxes, both personal and corporate, with municipalities.

Councillor Bill Farren, who has pressed for additional taxes levied against people who work in Saint John but live outside the city, said he supported many of the consultants' proposal reforms.

Residents from outlying municipalities use up the city's costly infrastructure on their way to work and don't have to pay for upkeep or repairs, Farren said.

 

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Should Maces Bay charge employees of Point Lepreau GS to drive through their neighbourhood too? This plan has issues for sure...
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Helladog aroundsj.blogspot.com, Saint John on 18/06/09 02:21:51 PM AST
Mr. McVicar: Would you care to explain your "cake & eat it too" statement. Please tell me what it is that I am not paying for as a Saint John business owner, employer, and a tax/water rate payer.
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Angus McDermott, Quispamsis on 18/06/09 02:59:52 PM AST
I used to live in Saint John and moved to Quispamsis and I just don't understand this city!! How do they figure that we recieve services that we don't pay for WHEN Saint Johners don't even recieve services they do pay for (i.e. Streets suck,plowing is horible to name a few)!! Sounds like they are just looking for more money to balance Tottens resignation....I mean retirement...or whatever it was. Get real council you people are running a city not a circus.
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Jason Roy, Quispamsis on 18/06/09 03:46:40 PM AST
BE.... in this place.

Hahahaha!
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sick in the city , saint john on 18/06/09 04:22:16 PM AST
Total BS, I think the start should be at city hall. Some high payed civic employees live in Grand bay-Westfield, Rothesay, etc. How about the people who leave the city to work?? I know of a few who travel to Sussex, Saint George, etc.
Don't the outlying areas already pay some for the Aquatic center, the Imperial,I think there is already more than enough money coming from the outlying areas, if this, AND previous councils, new how to handle it there probably wouldn't be an issue!!!
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Pool Guy, Saint John NB on 18/06/09 04:43:29 PM AST
I get SUCH a kick out of this!! It's farcical really. Simple math dictates that the geographical area of the City of SJ is far too large for the dwindling population - it always has been. The City has no choice but to provide whatever meager level of service it can to the unlucky ones left behind.
Mismanagement issues aside, the City simply can't afford to do everything it has to do.
The suburbs have grown exponentially with the cities outflow. All that growth has been new construction in the burbs so infrastructure costs aren't nearly the issue they are in SJ.
The clear answer was provided by the Finn Report which deals with economic realities as opposed to protecting Kingdoms.

A M A L G A M A T I O N
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Paw Prints, Hampton on 18/06/09 04:59:51 PM AST
Go ahead. The day you enact something that charges me for ging to work, will be the day I no longer shop or spend money in any Saint John businesses.
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D Murray, Rothesay on 18/06/09 05:04:15 PM AST
And Saint John wonders why Moncton is growing and Saint John is not....
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Retired Teacher, saint john on 18/06/09 05:56:38 PM AST
Terry Totten can pay my toll or tax or whatever you want to call it. He has the truck full of cash council gave him. They wonder why they have no money for services.
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D Murray, Rothesay on 18/06/09 10:41:31 PM AST
Bob McVicar, Your full of it. I remember when you were running for mayor and I said to you, " What are you going to do about the smell from Marsh Creek"? I told you straight up, if you have something planned I would vote for you. You had no answer and you lost my vote. Don't start politicing through the newspaper. Actions are louder than words.
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D Murray, Rothesay on 18/06/09 11:19:07 PM AST
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