Talk of Hydro-Québec dominates conference

Published Monday November 16th, 2009
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BOSTON - When the world's largest hydroelectric utility moves to take over an unprecedented chunk of eastern Canada's energy grid, New England sits up and takes notice.

In fact, Hydro-Québec's proposed agreement with NB Power and talks with Prince Edward Island were top of mind at an energy conference between Canada and the U.S. northeast that wrapped up over the weekend.

At the chic Seaport Hotel on the Boston waterfront, hundreds of business and government leaders gathered over two days to discuss the region's top energy issues.

But Hydro-Québec dominated the agenda at the U.S.-Canada Energy Trade and Technology Conference both on and off the podium.

"The deal between Hydro-Québec and New Brunswick is definitely on the radar here," said John Norden, manager at ISO New England, a Westborough, Mass.-based non-profit organization that ensures the availability of reasonably priced electricity for the region's residents and businesses.

"I have heard some questions raised by the New England generators," he said. "They are concerned about competition and being boxed out of the market."

As Hydro-Québec gains greater control of the energy sector, the fear among smaller power generators on the northeastern seaboard is that they will be pushed out of the market.

But Norden said market regulators, such as the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission in the U.S. and regulatory bodies in Canada, would monitor any competition issues.

"There are backstops to handle those concerns," he said.

"Those agencies will handle any market issues that come up as a result of the expansion of Hydro-Québec.

"And from an operational perspective, we've been dealing with the folks at the New Brunswick System Operator and TransEnergy - which represents Hydro-Quebec in the U.S. - for decades," he said.

"So I think the transition would be smooth from that perspective if the deal in New Brunswick goes through."

Leonard Gold, president of the New England-Canada Business Council and a Boston-based lawyer, said the co-operation between neighbouring countries demonstrated at the conference was reassuring.

"But there are some power companies in New England that have concerns about the ramifications of having this mammoth power north of the border and whether they will be difficult to compete with in supplying electricity to U.S. and New England inhabitants," he said.

"But my sense is there is such an appetite for power in New England that Hydro-Québec's growth will inevitably benefit consumers," Gold said.

"And I think some of the speakers have made it clear there should not be a concern with competition because the market will control it."

Since NAFTA came into effect in the mid-1990s, opening up a trilateral trade block in North America, Gold said the increasing trade opportunities between Canada and the U.S. have been a boon for both economies.

Wayne O'Connor, chief operating officer of Halifax-based Emera Energy Services, said during a break between sessions that free trade has changed the energy landscape.

"We see a lot more U.S. companies active in Canada and a lot more Canadian companies active in the U.S. (like Emera, which owns Bangor Hydro as well as Nova Scotia Power)," he said.

O'Connor said he's attended the energy conference for over a decade and has seen a significant uptick in interest from top industry and political leaders.

"There has always been a good dialogue between New England and eastern Canada on trade and specifically on energy trade, but we've seen that increase in recent years," he said.

Jon Sorenson, a partner with Portland, Maine-based Competitive Energy Services, said opinions on the Hydro-Québec agreement with New Brunswick and the formal talks between Quebec and P.E.I. are still murky.

"I think people are talking a lot about it here at the conference but everyone is still digesting the details," he said.

"I think everybody supports new capacity growth in the area of energy, expansion of transmission and connectivity "¦ that's all positive."

Sorenson said from his point of view, the proposed deal between Quebec and New Brunswick, which would see Hydro-Québec acquire most of the assets of NB Power for $4.75 billion, is great in the short term.

"But how does it affect deregulation in the future and what happens when some plants get retired and they are accessing new power from

Hydro-Québec "¦ I would be more concerned about long-term prices."

 

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For all the anti-quebec bigots... If Quebec were to separate how would they "make money"? Canada as a country exports much of their resources and if Quebec were to separate they would continue to "export" their power in order to earn money. If their rates were exorbitant then we could purchase our power from Maine, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia etc... Small mindedness isn't a good enough reason to not sell NB Power. There may be other reasons to not sell but not because too high of a percentage of my province are bigots.
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Stephen H, Capital on 16/11/09 11:44:21 AM AST
Stephen,
The people of Quebec are the masters of bigotry. They even write laws to enforce it. Don't you find that the least bit ironic in what you're saying?
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JustRight OfCenter, Fredericton area on 16/11/09 12:32:29 PM AST
Stephen H - the outrage is not just about the sale of our utility to HQ. Although there are some concerns with transferring ownership to another province, the real problem with this deal is much bigger.

We are selling a $10 billion utility. Approx $5 billion goes to pay off the debt and another $5 billion goes to rate cuts for industrial users only. How can anyone view this as a good deal for residential users?

The citizens of NB, the actual owners of NB Power, get very little. Corporate players with lobbyists and access to the halls of power seem to benefit the most from this sale. It's simply absurd. The government is selling out the citizens. This deal must be reworked or scrapped altogether.
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JJ Ross, Saint John on 16/11/09 12:47:26 PM AST
I hear alot of "good for the short term". Thats good for the selfish people who don't care about future generations! The saving recieved to each family a very little. The jobs that are at risk are huge!! Thats the part I don't hear anything about. Come on people! There are peoples livelihood at stake! People that are going to lose employment from Dalhousie Beldune Coleson Cove and La Preau when the Quebecers come down and fill up positions in that utility. When looking for work to feed there families don't bother slowing down to look in Quebec! They'll send you packing real quick!! And for all the people that have there heads in the sand and think the province will protect employment. All you have to do is look at LNG and see what the province did for them! They did NOTHING!! We get a freeze, Industry gets 30% reduction! Shouldn't it go the other way around? Its a public utility!
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viewer404 g., Saint John on 16/11/09 02:34:36 PM AST
I can see this issue dividing the liberal party. I think you will see liberal members crossing the floor to vote against this.
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D Murray, Rothesay on 16/11/09 03:39:07 PM AST
After discovering that they have been incompetent in overseeing the Lepreau refurbishment Graham and Keir are trying to cover up their accountability by selling out the province for short term political relief.

A Quebec based monopoly will not be accountable to the people of New Brunswick.

Our only hope is to sell Graham. I dont expect any buyers to be interested but we will be better off if we give him away for free.
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John F., Saint John on 16/11/09 04:42:14 PM AST
D. Murray of Rothesay said:"I can see this issue dividing the Liberal party. I think you will see Liberal members crossing the floor to vote against this."

If they are smart that is, but seeing as how they are Liberals, that is an indication of a lack of intelligence, so it doesn't look too good from here. Yes, I stupidly voted Liberal in Grand Bay-Westfield (Jack Keir) last election, and I can tell you honestly, I voted that way because I couldn't stand the arrogance of Bernard Lord, so I bit my tongue and voted Liberal. I did however make it quite clear that I would NEVER support the Liberal Party federally. Now I will state that I will never again vote Liberal under any circumstances, as both federally and provincially they wouldn't know the truth if it bot them on the butt, and I now believe that in order to become a Liberal candidate, one must first pass a test to determine they are certified pathological liars.
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J. Wayne McQueen, Burnaby on 16/11/09 08:20:36 PM AST
What we hear most from are "yellowdog" party people giving us history lessons on "who did what when or who didn't do enough then" stuff. Who cares if Graham said one thing and did another when it is equally repugnant to consider the Alward tories can't even get their own story straight! Much more importantly, what has any of this have to do to address the challenges presenting to us today and our near future?
I live in a province that is so indebted its credit rating was reduced.
I own a power utility that is near bankrupt. Many NBer's are becoming seniors, nearing retirement or trying to enter an old age home. Most cannot afford to retire or remain retired for long. Collectively, we don't have a strategy to provide for energy security in this province so how can we determine if selling NB power fits into our plans, we have no plan! no strategy exists to provide for sound energy policy.
We have work to do that liberal-tory rivalries don't address.
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Wally mann, Quispamsis on 17/11/09 12:22:23 AM AST
The curtain is about to go up on our Legislature November 17th and I find myself getting sick. What is it that I am about to be bombarded with? Words of wisdom spoken by Bruce Fitch? I doubt it. Explanations or excuses from Jack Kier? I lean toward having to listen to escuses and bi-partisan squabbling that would put a chicken coup to shame!
I think more inteligent disscussion could have been got if I had traveled into the States this weekend to listen to what was being said there out this sale of NB power to Quebec-Hydro. At least I wouldn't be inundated by how the dreaded french hordes where about to restart their revolution and take the minds of my children over.
Can this province sink lower, of course it can. All it would take is for people to sit down and want to discuss the meaning behind the ridiculus and the irrelevent.
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Wally mann, Quispamsis on 17/11/09 12:37:07 AM AST
To JJ Ross. You are incorrect. A majority of the 5 billion is the cost of freezing rates for the next five years. If we do not sell, rates have to go up by at least 5% year for the next five years. Cumulatively, that is a difference of over 26% on residential power rates in year 5 and the difference grows every year thereafter.
Although large users pay 30% less initially to save jobs, they will get an increase every year. After five years, the to rates should be closer together.

To Viewer. Very few jobs will be lost. NB Power has 2700 employees. Attrition rate is app 5% YEAR OR app 125 employees. Some employees will be shifter to other jobs within the system. Others not wishing to move will be offered packadges

To John F. The contract for overseeing the refurbishment of Lepreau was given to AECL by the Lord Conservative government of which Alward, Keith Ashfield and Rodney Weston were members. You can't honestly blame Graham for that.

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J. R, Moncton, NB on 17/11/09 11:24:44 AM AST
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