Petition would oust mayor

Published Wednesday June 24th, 2009

City Hall Realtor, property owner aiming to collect 6,300 signatures in bid to force election

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SAINT JOHN - A real estate salesman and property owner has launched a petition to remove Mayor Ivan Court from office.

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Real estate businessman Gerry Webster holds a petition he is circulating in a bid to remove Mayor Ivan Court from office. He wants to present the petition to the common clerk by July 17.

"He's the mayor, that's where the buck stops," Gerry Webster said. "He's had a year and he's not listened to the public."

Webster, who has already expressed his frustration with the mayor and common council, wants to present the petition to the common clerk by July 15.

The petition says, in part, "We the undersigned petition the common clerk of the City of Saint John to recall the below listed mayor" and that "an election be held as soon as possible."

The reason for the petition to recall the mayor, the document states, is "the failure to address the serious financial situation of the city and the proposed further expenditures on capital projects."

With the help of two lawyers, Webster said he has researched old city laws that allow citizens to recall politicians if they have the support of the electorate. Webster said he needs at least 15 per cent support - or about 6,300 signatures.

"I'm not expecting to have too much of a problem at all getting that," he said. "I think there's enough people mad enough to sign it, and get the mayor out and have him stand for election and stand on the merit of what he's been doing."

According to the city statute, the common clerk would ensure the signatures are valid, and set a byelection within 50 days, Webster said.

Webster has formed a committee of disgruntled citizens to help distribute the petition, and knows at least three people interested in running for mayor. Most of the problems he has with the mayor involve the issue of increasing taxes.

"They were elected on a promise they would lower taxes, but they didn't lower our costs, they've increased our costs."

With big city projects including the new $28-million police station at Peel Plaza and a multimillion-dollar new water system, Webster figures the tax rate will go up by 50 cents, or a 30 per cent increase.

"It's just not acceptable," he said, adding he has a lot of money invested in Saint John properties and can't afford an increase. "We already have the highest tax rates."

He also cited the city's new $20-million heated bus garage as an example of excessive spending.

Aside from increasing costs, Webster said he's not alone in his frustration with how the city is being run. He thinks building Peel Plaza in the uptown is foolish when the city should be attracting families to such prime real estate. He even believes Saint John has missed its chance at getting federal funding for a new water treatment system.

"I can tell you from my research, the people in Ottawa are laughing at the people of Saint John because the application they put in wouldn't be prepared this way by a Grade 10 student."

According to Webster's research, citizens used the recall law in 1919 and in 1923.

The Municipalities Act, a provincial act created in the 1970s, supersedes former city laws wherever there is a conflict between the two.

Since recall is not addressed in the act, "the previous ruling still prevails," he said.

If the mayor refuses to step down, Webster said he won't give up.

"We'll take a whole truckload of paperwork to the lieutenant-governor, and say, 'Here's the paperwork, these people want the mayor out,' " he said. "And they'd be really hard-pressed not to move the mayor out."

Once the petition is presented, Webster said Court should have the "common courtesy" to resign. If there is a byelection, Court will have the opportunity to run again, he said.

For now, it's the citizens' turn to speak, Webster said.

"Here's a chance for all the people of Saint John who are complaining about the situation to come forward and put their name on the paper and say, 'I'm not happy, I'm not taking this anymore.' "

 

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What's the point of tossing Ivan out he's only one voice and one vote. His brother and the other clowns will still be driving the little car around in circles. Do it right toss them ALL out.
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d g, saint john on 24/06/09 08:31:25 AM AST
Thank goodness that most people in SJ don't bother with this paper. Demand is so low that they can't even pawn it off at MacDonalds anymore. It is so one-sided and there isn't any objective journalism in it at all. I know grade seven students that could produce a better newspaper than the Telegraph Journal.

"Unwilling to address excessive spending" according to whom???? Articles like this are printed because Irven' don't like that people questioned and stood up against their tax grab for the LNG plant. Perhaps we wouldn't be in this mess if they contributed and payed what everyone else does. How are things in Bermuda anyway?

"30% rise in taxes" - according to whom???

"Application form filled out like a grade 19 student" - Well, lets see it. Lets see if for ourselves. And isn't it the mighty Rodney Weston that should be dealing with Ottawa in the first place?

This stupid petition is a slap in the face to democracy.
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Billy Joel, Saint John on 24/06/09 08:35:04 AM AST
I couldn't support any iniative put forth by Gerry Webster. He needs to clean up his own backyard before putting down anybody else.
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T. C, Saint John on 24/06/09 08:36:20 AM AST
Thank you T.C. and as Pierre Trudeau pointed out during the FLQ Crisis in Quebec, our system does have a way for citizens to remove a government, and that's through a free and democratic election.

This paper has been on a vendetta againt Court ever since he was elected. This sends a message to politicans NOT to stand-up for citizens when things conflict with Irving's interests and that is bad for SJ.

No wonder people are putting up Greed signs everywhere.
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Billy Joel, Saint John on 24/06/09 08:55:10 AM AST
"He thinks building Peel Plaza in the uptown is foolish when the city should be attracting families to such prime real estate."
I am sorry Mr. Webster would you want your grandchildren riding their bikes in this area of Union Street? Don't be fooled by this papaer and Mr. Webster who mereley have their own interests at stake.

Mr. Webster states, "I can tell you from my research, the people in Ottawa are laughing at the people of Saint John because the application they put in wouldn't be prepared this way by a Grade 10 student." For several years I have lived in other regions in Canada and I will tell you this – the reason why Saint John is laughed at, or viewed as “backwards” is due to the influence and control a select few have over our daily lives. It is with honest optimism that I hope TJ readers solicit other sources of news to experience the art of well written, unbiased journalism.
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. Lorax, Saint John on 24/06/09 10:05:15 AM AST
I am not a supporter of Mayor Court but I do think that this idea is ridiculous. People elected the Mayor for a 4 year term and like it or not - you're stuck with who you supported for the office.

With regards to Mr. Webster complaining about the excessive costs of Peel Plaza and the Transit Building; I don't think the public should put much into his comments. If you recall, it was he who took the former General Hospital site (prime real estate), and placed the cheap ugly boxes that now sit on the hill and house the Federal govt and Credit Counselling Services.


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Jack Stone, Saint John on 24/06/09 11:15:14 AM AST
Ivan Court has not acted as an honourable mayor. He & council did not write the applications for federal funding--our 16-yr city manager was responsible for that-you know the guy who just resigned with another half million of our bucks plus two pensions thanks to the votes of Titus and Chase. Then there's Totten's deputy, Pat Woods, who is now running the city, who council & mayor appointed & gave a 25% raise, all expenses paid. Snr city staff run our city hall & administer our city business plus advise council & intimidate cnclrs into doing what they want supported by cnclrs Titus, McGuire, Killen & Court. Taking Ivan out will help but will not solve the problem. The balance of power is reversed & the bully councillors keep it that way. Chase just seems to talk & take no action when it comes down to the wire. Let's keep cnclrs Farren, Snook, Higgins,Mott &Sullivan & get rid of the rest.These guys care about our city-some having been grossly mistreated & bullied by snr staff & bullies.
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trust is earned, Saint John on 24/06/09 11:30:12 AM AST
Mr Webster has a few canidates ready to run for mayor does he? hmmm no chance he would be getting something out of this would he? what is becomming a common problem with Canadian politics is rearing its ugly head localy now. a civic election was held at a cost to tax payers...anyone who wished to run had a chance to run and anyone who wished to vote voted. end of story. just becuase you didnt get "your" canidates into office we dont just keep holding costly elections until you get what you want. they call that a dictatorship. what happens if Webster,Herbie and Jamie Irving get thier wish of a by election and Mr Court wins again? do they call for another re-call? give it up and run your canidates again in 3 years.and when they fail to take office again you will have something to print for the next 4 years.....by the way i really liked the telegraph urinal title from another reader. 2 thumbs up
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scott riccio, quispamsis on 24/06/09 11:42:23 AM AST
the most important information of where to sign is not posted..... geez.
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sick in the city , saint john on 24/06/09 01:06:56 PM AST
Count me in Mr. Webster. If you are away on holidays, will there be a web site to sign in?

Trust is earned, as far as I am concerned they can take out Higgins and Mott with the rest of the ones you listed. These two are in way over their heads and contribute nothing to council.
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McDuff L, Saint John on 24/06/09 03:01:09 PM AST
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