Civic union leader couldn't stop butting in

Published Friday May 9th, 2008
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Most of the questions were long-winded, but intelligent enough. The leaders of the city's civic unions had hastily arranged a question-and-answer session inside the barn-like building at Exhibition Park. Saint John mayoral candidates Ivan Court, Norm McFarlane and John Ferguson were on the hot seat, Michelle Hooton and Mike Richardson no shows. Three hundred union members were pumped to hear some answers to their concerns.

Too bad the moderator on Wednesday evening decided he was as important as the candidates. As they politely watched, Mike Davidson, a regional representative with the Canadian Union of Public Employees, couldn't stop himself from going off on soliloquies - rants, to be more precise - or badgering Ferguson after his answers.

Davidson is the son of Bob Davidson, the retired union official who probably helped make more gains for Saint John's civic employees than anybody else. The father is personable and persuasive, and can argue his positions thoughtfully.

His son should try to emulate him better.

At one point, Sgt. Kim Phillips, the head of the police union, asked the candidates if they'd support switching the city employees' pension plan to a municipal bylaw, rather than leave the legislation under provincial control. Part two was: how would a municipal bylaw help the plan?

Good questions. All three candidates said they didn't support switching it to a bylaw and told the crowd their pensions were safe.

Ferguson, who's being sued by McFarlane and the rest of the pension board - including CUPE representatives - for alleged defamation, had a few pointed comments.

The city councillor told the crowd he's a provincial employee in his day job and pays into a similar defined benefit plan. However, his monthly payments are far lower, he said, while his benefits are pretty much the same. He argued the city's plan had to be re-examined to make sure it had no holes and called again for an independent, third-party review.

Davidson couldn't let it go. Instead of moderating, he butt in, saying the pension plan already had plenty of third-party reviews because it's examined by a professional actuary every three years, money managers and lawyers.

He didn't mention that it has had a severe deficit for seven straight years - aside from two whole days it had a surplus - and cost taxpayers $18 million extra. That works out to about $265 for every person who lives in Saint John, many of whom are poor or seniors on fixed incomes.

Davidson then questioned why Ferguson would want to model the city's pension plan on the Canada Pension Plan, which gives people a pension based on a career average rather than the top three salary-earning years.

Ferguson coolly replied that he wanted the city's pension plan to model the national pension's investment strategies.

"It has nothing to do with benefits."

Davidson's response? "I guess that's fear-mongering," before jumping to the next question.

Later, the president of the city's outside workers' union, Mike Montgomery, asked Ferguson why he was open to public-private partnerships for the city's water system. Another good question.

The candidate said he wasn't in favour of such partnerships - instead, he was open to examining them. He also took exception to the union's circulating an e-mail to its members that stated Ferguson and other candidates were in favour of privatizing water.

"I thought that was an unfair appeal," said Ferguson. "No one from the union called me to hear my point of view. I felt it wasn't right, that they put that in without asking me my opinion."

Davidson shot in with another harangue. Ferguson wouldn't back down and mentioned he had a copy of the e-mail and would be happy to circulate it to any media that wanted to see it.

Caught like a trussed calf, Davidson ignored Ferguson and started braying instead. The word "media" was his exit card and he began raving about a recent "faceless editorial" in the Telegraph-Journal entitled "Don't drink CUPE's Kool-Aid."

"What we need is an election on this newspaper!" he cried.

It's one thing to tell people what to read and whom to vote for. It's another for a union leader to expose his insecurities by insulting the intelligence of those he purports to represent - and the majority of voters who have little time for his rants.

John Chilibeck is a Telegraph-Journal reporter. He writes about issues that affect the Saint John region. He can be reached at chilibeck.john@telegraphjournal.com or by calling 645-3267.

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This will go down as the "special interests" election of 2008.

The senior city staff whodesperately want their puppet Norm to stay.

The city unions wanting Ivan Court to replace him so they can have even more control of the city's business decisions (and their bargaining ability.)

The Irving newspaper pushing Michelle Hooton. Been trying to figure that one out? Possibly the Barry connections? John Barry Hooton's campaign chair and Ron Barry the senior editor?

In any case there are only two candidates who don't seem to have support of special interests. Hope one off them wins.

It's time elections in our city were run fair and square without the influence of these special interests in how we vote.

We can see through the subterfuge folks!

Let us pick who we want.
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 6:30:24 AM ADT
All the signs are there on who's corrupted & who's not,don't wait till after the election to say we should've known better,it will be too late,vote wisely
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 8:01:29 AM ADT
The victim mentality is alive and well in Saint John. "No one is gonna take advantage of me!" We will never get good leadership and a prosperous city if we don't stop playing in the sandbox. Think like ameteurs and we will be ameteurs, Saint John.
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 9:08:15 AM ADT
hahaha ,on the thumbs down...no let's ignore the signs,elect the corrupt,we shouldn't be allowed to pick who we want,the citizens will benefit....thumbs down on this democracy system,
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 9:19:12 AM ADT
Yet another article in our wonderful Irving Paper. All for one candidate yet AGAIN!....Who are the two candidates you are referring to buddy???? If you mean John, he is backed by Kenneth Irving and isn't Mike working in cahoots with Michelle???? That's what one of her EX camp members has been informing people.
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 9:43:36 AM ADT
I notice that no one is commenting on the main point of the article. That the supposed debate monitor did a poor job. The article does not pont out anything about Norm or Ivan, beacuse the whole point of this "debate" was to pound Fergurson. Moderators are not supposed to behave like that. Is it any wonder people are weary of the ctiy's unions when there representatives behave like that? I would like someone from the union to comment on the fact that they have been sending out misleading information about Fergerson's stand on water privatization. Hopefully Saint Johners will elect a council and mayor that will stand up to city management and the unions. Any of the cadidates who will do this deserve to be elected.
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 11:37:51 AM ADT
You people are CRAZY, CRAZY, CRAZY!!!!!
They didn't point out Ivan because he stole the show...The paper will never in a million years give him credit for that. Norm also held himself well....Again, the paper will never give him credit. He was their candidate of the past...come on now...John may have had opposing views, but everyone there (except for his own camp, I guess) agree that each and every candidate was treated fairly. They were all given the saem questions at the beginning and then in the end were each singled out based on certain points of their individual campaigns because the people wanted further explanation. Everyone was given more than their fair share of time to talk. Just because the vast majority of people there had oppossing views to John, did not mean they were attacking him. They applauded when they agreed with each of them. Just so happened that they agreed with Ivan and Norm more. Ivan by far seemed to win the applause....Stop the bashing and grow up!
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 11:59:40 AM ADT
I am not a Union member, but did attend the debate. I have no affiliation with Mike Davidson, never met him before in mylife. I have listened to him a few times on the radio, but that is the end of it.
You people can sit and bash him all you want, (Michelle and John) but the fact of the matter is,he KNOWS his stuff. It may bother you because a lot of the issues are opposite your platforms, but bottom line, he knows his facts.
I thought the event was very good and I am glad I attended. There was no scripted answers for this one.
The lack of appearance from Hooton and Davidson says a lot! For her crew to come on here and condem YET AGAIN, is sickening.
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Anonymous Reader on 09/05/08, 12:06:29 PM ADT
Alright, first of all, every person who commented on this article signed 'Anonymous' so I guess you all work for one of the candidates or your a union member. I'll break the election down so that people can know who they're gonna vote for.

Michelle Hooton- scared of the Mayor and tells people whatever they want to hear.
Ivan Court- Puppet for the unions.
Mike Richardson- Simply doesn't have the experience. (Should perhaps run for council first, he has good ideas).
Norm MacFarlane- Finally got the city growing. Ablity to make tough decisions when other candidates flip flop.
John Ferguson- Takes common sense approach and is willing to stand up to figure out the pension problem.

Sounds to me like we only have two candidates worth considering. I've decided for Norm but John wouldn't be a bad choice.

Oh and just for the record, I don't work for the Irvings, I am not a member of a union and I am not afraid to put my name to my comment.
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sam M., Saint John on 09/05/08, 12:58:21 PM ADT
What people should take form this article is the behaviour of Mike Davidson. There is nothing wrong with them having this debate or Unions endorsing a candidate. The problem is the moderator was not doing his job. The moderator is there to ask the questions and "moderate the debate. It sounds like he was very impartial. It would have been better if they had gotten someone neutral to do it, so then it would not look like this was held to just make some of the candidates look bad. The issue of the circulating e-mail stating false information about John Ferguson is a terrible thing to do, and it makes all union member look shady and that they will do anything to protect their interests. They should admit that, apologise and then move on to help making this city grow strong
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shawn verner, quispamsis on 09/05/08, 1:40:27 PM ADT
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