Fireworks erupt at debate

Published Saturday May 3rd, 2008

Campaign Mayoral candidates trade accusations as heated words fly

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SAINT JOHN - With four members of the outgoing council engaged in a very close race for the mayoralty, many observers predicted there could be fireworks at a candidates' debate Friday night.

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Coun. Ivan Court, left, makes a point during Friday night’s often heated debate at St. Malachy’s Memorial High School involving the five mayoral candidates. With him, left to right, are Coun. John Ferguson, Deputy Mayor Michelle Hooton, Mayor Norm McFarlane and Aliant employee Mike Richardson.

Those predictions became reality in a way not many might have expected as incumbent Mayor Norm McFarlane squared off against Deputy Mayor Michelle Hooton and councillors Ivan Court and John Ferguson and newcomer Michael Richardson.

While defending himself against allegations by Hooton that he threatened her into rescinding a motion that was related to the controversial tax concessions for the liquefied natural gas plant, McFarlane also accused Court of hypocrisy on the issue of transparency. The mayor alleged calls to Court's campaign office on the west side are being answered by staff of Saint John Lancaster MLA Abel LeBlanc, who are on the provincial government payroll.

McFarlane vehemently denied he ever threatened Hooton, while Court said his campaign is using empty space in the same building as LeBlanc's constituency office, but that his own campaign workers are taking calls. Court shot back that he wouldn't take lessons on transparency from McFarlane, who had closed-door meetings with Irving Oil officials.

Hooton was the first of the five candidates to pledge a reduction in the property tax rate and she vowed to make it competitive with towns in the Kennebecasis Valley, where the rate is about 50 cents lower than the city's 1.795 per $100 of assessed value.

McFarlane noted that commitment would cost city coffers about $25 million in revenue annually and he said Hooton's own campaign literature also pledges about $40 million in new development. McFarlane said if she could convince him that the $65-million swing was realistic, he would vote for her.

Hooton explained that the additional revenue the city would receive from the anticipated billions of dollars in energy hub development would more than make up the lost revenue, but McFarlane was unconvinced.

Court renewed his call for any temporary housing created during the energy boom to be converted into affordable housing after the construction is complete, a suggestion that drew considerable applause.

He also stated his support for his own version of the P3 - "People, people, people."

The three-term incumbent from the west side would also open the budget consultation process to include input from citizens and community groups.

Ferguson, who is at the centre of a lawsuit involving comments he made about the city's troubled pension plan, said the plan must be reviewed.

"Would you put water into a bucket full of holes?" he asked the standing-room-only crowd at the St. Malachy's Memorial High School auditorium. He also renewed calls that performance reviews and benchmarks be put in place for senior staff at City Hall and called for more transparency around council decisions.

Ferguson also pointed out his fellow candidates who are on council did not support his request that the city hire an independent ethics commissioner.

Hooton said a reduction of the tax rate is her top priority - "If we can't bring down the tax rate now, we never will-" followed by achieving clean, safe drinking water.

She said the city has before it a once-in-a-generation opportunity with the coming boom to improve the quality of life. She wants more public participation on community boards and commissions and would like to see the budget process made more transparent.

McFarlane spoke of the successes the city has achieved in the four years since his election. He spoke proudly of council's co-operation with other levels of government on harbour cleanup and said it was time to move on to the next big project - clean drinking water. He said the city's development into the region's energy hub were the result of his strong leadership and said much of the talk about a tax rate reduction is simply "rhetoric" that can't be properly explained.

He ended his statements by asking a simple question: "Are you and the city of Saint John better off today than you were four years ago?"

Richardson took advantage of the numerous squabbles between his rivals to underscore his contention that a wholesale change must occur at the top.

During one of the more heated exchanges, he simply said, "I think everybody can understand why I'm running for mayor. Just like you, I'm tired of the same antics and political behaviour. We need a fresh new direction and I'm offering you that."

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I had made up my mind before I attended the debate as to who I would be voting for. The debate reinforced who I would not be voting for:

Ivan Court


About 1/3 of the crowd attending were union reps from the fire fighters, city workers and police force. They were rude and had to be told a few times to let the candidates talk as they jeered, heckled and booed. Mr. Barry lost his temper at one point and threatened to have some of them marched out of the room. Hurray for democracy!

Saint John does not need a mayor who sits in the back pocket of the unions of this city.

I have nothing against unions, I am a proud union member, HOWEVER I refuse to vote in people who take large contributions from "speciality" groups and hold their interests above those of the taxpayers of Saint John.

I hope ALL residents will keep this in mind and vote accordingly.

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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 8:23:57 AM ADT
I'm sick of unions showing up at the debates and booing the candidates.

They hide at the back of the room and yell out when nobody is looking at them.

Cowards.

If they are elected, you will see the real Ivan and Bruce - four more years of listening them them complain about everything.

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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 8:33:01 AM ADT
"he threatened her into rescinding a motion that was related to the controversial tax concessions for the liquefied natural gas plant"
Thanks for setting the record straight Ms. Hooten. Now I am positive I will not be voting for you, knowing your mind can be changed that easily. And you honestly think you can run the City of Saint John, I don't think so.
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 9:30:17 AM ADT
Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 8:33:01 AM ADT

and your going to tell me that Ferguson and Hooten haven't been purchased by the Irvings???
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 9:38:37 AM ADT
Court and Hooton were lying about transparency, their desire for accountability and about their support of a tax rate decrease. But Court was the most duplicitous of the two. He has been the loudest proponent of secrecy on the Common Council, and he does not hesitate to belly up to the public bar for tax goodies for the unions and his friends. He does not believe that the people have a right to know anything that Common Council does. Like Chris Titus, Court thinks that public service means the public serves his wallet. And like Chris Titus and Norm McFarlane, being elected is a way for Court sit on a private board and collect an extra paycheck. Titus gets $500.00 a month for chairing a meeting for one hour or less of the Saint John Energy Board. He's a prosecutor, a Common Council member, and a member of the city pension board, SJ energy board and a number of others. And Court wants to also sit on as many boards as Titus and get paid the same. That's why our taxes are so high.
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 10:22:31 AM ADT
I see Hooton is on here trying to do damage control from last night. Too late lady, you got caught red handed! Irving didn't have a reply ready for that question or what????? You couldn't have sounded more rediculous! I will never forget your words....ha,ha,ha.....perfect timing too, after going on and on all night about "No closed door secret meetings." I LOVED IT!!!!
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 9:20:40 PM ADT
It's funny how everyone is going on and on about the nions this time around....Does everyone forget the elections of the past???? Who was being backed last time around?...Does nobody recall Norm, Hooton, and Furguson's names on the lists????? What is wrong with you people? It's ok when it is them who are being supported, but now that they have seen them in action the past four years and given up on them, resulting in them shifting their support elsewhere, it's a problem???? You people crack me up! Why hasn't the paper publised the fact that Irving is backing Michelle and John? Why isn't that all over the news day in day out? Shouldn't you same people be OUTRAGED??? Look at the thousands of dollars in signs alone that they have put out for them. Shouldn't you people be scared as to why they are trying so hard to get them in there?
The fact that the unions are no longer supporting these people, whom they one did, should tell you right there that these candidates are useless!
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 9:30:00 PM ADT
Has anyone checked on Michelle today to make sure Norm doesn't have her held hostage again????
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 9:31:38 PM ADT
Hey anon 9:20. Get your facts straight. Is Irving backing everyone? C'mon. That's a joke.
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 11:04:29 PM ADT
Nope just Michelle and John...You get your facts straight! where do you think they got all the signs? Haven't you seen the postings around the city? Obviously you are from one of the two. Oh yes and they have held staff meetings at several irving offices informing who to vote for. If you don't believe it ask someone at the call centre
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Anonymous Reader on 03/05/08, 11:27:53 PM ADT
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